Daniel 8:13-14 Details the Coming Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s Witnesses
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Temple Indictment and Desolation Decree
(Daniel 8:13-14) And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking: “How long will the vision be of the constant [feature] and of the transgression causing desolation, to make both [the] holy place and [the] army things to trample on?” 14 So he said to me: “Until two thousand three hundred evenings [and] mornings; and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition.”
1. This unique unfulfilled prophecy of the final temple judgment upon the last point of valid Christian ministerial development in Jehovah’s witnesses will provide a great signal event on Jehovah’s witnesses. It’s timed nature will provide verification of the events as fulfilling this signal commencement prophecy principle of 1 Peter 4:17:
(1 Peter 4:17) For it is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of God. Now if it starts first with us, what will the end be of those who are not obedient to the good news of God?
2. Thus the prophecy is important to understand, and it’s current Bethel interpretation is invalid for a number of reasons. It’s timed nature guarantees it’s commencement and duration will lead to more prophecy that it connects to in Revelation 8:1-6 as the Revelation 8 final fulfillment parallel of the temple judgment activating the final Revelation 8-11 final fulfillment. It is not a “stand alone” prophecy but a signal activation prophecy of the final cycle of prophecy, final 8th King world government completion events and Messianic Kingdom completion events over the final years of Adamic world history.
Details of the Coming Temple Judgment
(Daniel 8:13) And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking: “How long will the vision be of the constant [feature] and of the transgression causing desolation, to make both [the] holy place and [the] army things to trample on?”
1. 8th King Trampling: The vision is about the “trampling” of the Jehovah’s witnesses’ “constant feature”, the ministerial “army”, and the “holy place” (Dan8:11 related) for the timed period cited in Daniel 8:14, and what allows this “trampling” “desolation” to occur.
A. The related parallel segway to the above indictment and decree:
(Daniel 8:11) And all the way to the Prince of the army it put on great airs, and from him the constant [feature] was taken away, and the established place of his sanctuary was thrown down. (None of this has occurred in Jehovah’s witnesses as of date; The 1914-1918 period had not yet established the temple definition or the “established place” ministerial base);
2. Temple Transgression: The “transgression causing desolation” is the temple transgression that causes the desolation requirement from God.
A. The “causing desolation” is the clue and connection to which modern “disgusting thing” event that brings this judgment on Jehovah’s witnesses, and how the temple became associated with that “disgusting thing” “transgression” as UN NGO in 1990:
(Daniel 11:30-31) “And they (team effort, 8th King/Bethel) will certainly put in place the disgusting thing that is causing desolation. (3rd UN placement, 1990; UN NGO, 1991, at Bethel; Matt24:15);
Temple Judgment and Timing
(Daniel 8:14) So he said to me: “Until two thousand three hundred evenings [and] mornings; and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition.”
1. The “right condition” is a temple judgment purification related to Zechariah 3:1-5 and Malachi 3:1-5. Thus Daniel 8:13-14 is a major prophetic fulfillment beyond mere WTBTS updated policies and charter adjustments. The 1930’s and 1940s version interpretations are prematurely applied to a prophecy that must develop deep in the last days, the actual “time of the end” of even that late period.
Meaning of Evening and Morning
1. The “evening” and “morning” is an important meaning reiterated by the angel Gabriel:
(Daniel 8:26) “And the thing seen concerning the evening and the morning, which has been said, it is true. And you, for your part, keep secret the vision, because it is yet for many days.”
2. The “evening” and “morning” is a reference to the “constant feature” offering.
A. Insight on the Scriptures, Vol. 1, p. 1195 Incense “Upon these altars, every morning and evening the sacred incense was burned.” (Ex 30:7, 8; 2Ch 13:11)
B. Thus the “evening” and “morning” is a reference to the “constant feature” offering of the public ministry of Jehovah’s witnesses and it’s preparation.
C. Since the “evening” and “morning” correspond to the administering of the “constant feature”, suspension of the “constant feature” of Jehovah’s witnesses may mark this period’s start point of the temple judgment.
3. “Evening” and “morning” are also possibly phases of darkness and enlightenment to mark the whole temple judgment overall. These states of spirituality logically then transition from the “evening” state of spiritual darkness first in the “un-right” profaned condition (Zech3:3; Rev9 “abyss”). Next the “morning” phase indicates the final phase the “morning” enlightenment of the “right condition” in the “holy place” as a symbol of purification reached. (The Revelation 9 final fulfillment “abyss” “opened” to “light”);
Timing of 2300 “Evenings” and “Mornings”
1. Since “days” are not specifically stated, assuming this is 2300 days is speculative. If each “evening” and “morning” together represents a day, then 2300 days is 6.38 years; 6 years, 4 months, 20 days. (Lunar year; 360 days per year);
2. But the 2300 “evenings” and “mornings” is also somewhat cryptic. Is it 2300 individual “evenings” and “mornings”, each counted separately instead? If so this is 1150 days (3.194 years; 3 years, 2 months, 10 days) where each “evening” and each “morning” count to 2 counts towards the 2300 units each day.
The cryptic nature and significant importance of the prophecy means attention needs to be paid to it for it’s start point of “constant feature” full removal, phasing, and the timing to it’s completion for it must transition into more prophetic fulfillment from this signal event.
More Parallels and Meanings of Daniel 11:30-35 and Daniel 8:11-14
1. Now with the obvious “causing desolation” connection of Daniel 8:13 and Daniel 11:31b wording and events, we can look more closely at the preceding parts of those prophecies for possible parallels to see more obvious connections between the two prophetic sequences that indicate the preparative compromise that allowed the UN NGO and current “befouled” profaned state of the Jehovah’s witnesses ministry. (Zech3:1-3; Rev8:10-12);
(Daniel 11:30b) . . .(1) “And he (8thKing/King North globalist) will actually go back (in the three world war cycles) and hurl denunciations against the holy covenant (only in Christian anointed among Jehovah’s witnesses at this post 1919 time) and act effectively (continual success – see Daniel 11:36b; Dan8:12b); (2) and he will have to go back and will give (unique/specialized) consideration to those (JW Christian anointed defectors) leaving (defection in progress, not possible in Christendom) the holy covenant. (anytime developing after 1919 determination of holy covenant location); 31 (3) And there will be (infiltrator subversion) arms that will stand up (internal to Bethel; Dan11:41; Luke21:20), proceeding from him; (8th King/King North globalists) and (4) they (team effort with the Governing Body network) will actually profane the (a) sanctuary (temple arrangement internally compromised with UN NGO pollutions; 2Thess2:3-4), the (b) fortress (JW organization internally compromised), and remove the (c) constant [feature]. (Truth profaned first and “removed” as acceptable to God, as covered here in this Governing Body misinformation campaign; This must become a literal event of JW ministerial cessation of the first 8th King “trampling” of Dan8:13);
2. Now the (1) King North guidance, the (2) defective holy covenant parties, the (3) additional infiltrative “arms that stand up” forces (Luke21:20) and the (4) collusive “they” team effort are all identified even before their spiritual UN NGO coup de grace “in the temple” at the UN 3rd placement of 1990 timing fitting more precisely ALL the features of this prophecy:
(Daniel 11:31) (3rd UN placement 1990:) “And they (team effort) will certainly put in place the disgusting thing that is causing desolation. (3rd UN placement, 1990; UN NGO, 1991, at Bethel; Dan8:13 “transgression causing desolation”);
3. Now the actual 8th King influence and opposition is a central feature of both prophecies as “small horn”, “King of Fierce Countenance” and “King North” all equate to 8th King activity in reality leading to the UN NGO signal. (Matt24:25).
4. Now the collusive “disgusting thing” related transgression affecting the temple condition (Zech3:1-3) is directly paralleled as preceding, and with, the 1990 3rd UN “disgusting thing” placement (Dan11:30-31), and it’s obvious parallel “transgression causing desolation”. (Dan8:11-13);
5. Now the Daniel 11:30b (a) “sanctuary”, (b) “established place”/”fortress” and (c) “constant feature” all have direct parallels to Daniel 8:11-12 as well:
(Daniel 8:11-12) . . .And all the way to the Prince of the army it (8th King root) put on great airs, and from him the (c) constant [feature] was taken away, and the (b) established place (Bethel JW worldwide organization) of his (a) sanctuary was thrown down. 12 And an (JW worldwide) army itself was gradually given over (to 8th King infiltrative control), together with the constant [feature] (imbibed with misinformation), because of transgression; (UN NGO and other sins permits allowance of the compromise by removed divine blessing and discernment while fulfillment of prophecy is effected for greater future purpose); and it kept throwing truth to the earth (cover up, misinformation), and it acted and had success. (Dan11:30 “act effectively” completely successful unlike anything World War 2 produced in ultimate failure when compared to this 8th King engineered intelligence and subversion operation deployed through the Governing Body and installed Bethel agents);
6. Now Daniel 11:30b-31a leads to a very significant placing of the “disgusting thing” as Daniel 11:31b correlating to the uncommented (as prophecy; Awake! 9/81991) 3rd UN placement of 1990 after the Cold War (Dan11:29) and USSR dissolution.
7. Now Daniel 8:11-12 leads to the temple judgment decree of Daniel 8:13-14 related to the same “disgusting thing”.
Modern Final Apostasy Parallel as Signal of the Coming Temple Judgment
1. And further, the resulting apostasy of Daniel 11:32-35 to develop concurrently as “because of transgression” of Daniel 8:12, also connects to further apostasy of the final “man of lawlessness” activity “in the temple” in modern times:
(Daniel 11:32) “And those who are acting wickedly against [the] covenant (at Bethel), he (8th King/King North) will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. (The Bethel “smooth words” 8th King cover-up in the JW publications is part of the smoothly justified apostasy);
(2 Thessalonians 2:3-4) Let no one (including Bethel; Rev2:2) seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone…
2. The stumbling aspects of Daniel 11:32-35:
(Daniel 11:32-35) “And those who are acting wickedly against [the] covenant, he (8th King/King North) will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. But as regards the people who are knowing their God, they will prevail and act effectively. 33 And as regards those having insight among the people, they will impart understanding to the many. And they will certainly be made to stumble by sword and by flame, by captivity and by plundering, for [some] days. 34 But when they are made to stumble they will be helped with a little help; and many will certainly join themselves to them by means of smoothness. 35 And some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and to do a whitening, until the time of [the] end; because it is yet for the time appointed. (The Daniel 8:14 time appointed. Thus the stumbling continues to the “time of the end” period to be removed finally in the temple judgment to allow a final ministry to form);
3. Parallel the reiterated Bethel 8th King infiltration invasion of Daniel 11:41 and it’s stumbling of people:
(Daniel 11:41) He (8th King/King North) will also actually enter into the land of the Decoration (as per Daniel 8:11-13; 11:30b-35), and there will be many [people] that will be made to stumble.
4. Thus a stumbling campaign also accompanies the overall UN NGO transgression.
A. This now links the Matthew 24:15 to the UN NGO “discernment” in Daniel 11:31b and Daniel 8:13 connection and the Luke 21:20 “encamped armies” actually present in and around Bethel to perform the foretold and required Daniel 8:13 “trampling”.
See Connecting Bethel Lawlessness to Final Prophecy for more details.
Actual Daniel 11:30-45 Sub Patterns
1. Daniel 11:30-35, 11:36-39, 11:40-45 are approximate parallels, not a sequence.
A. Daniel 11:30-35 is the “disgusting thing” development and it’s prelude with it’s stumbling and profanation effects.
B. Daniel 11:36-39 is details of the 8th King as King North since 1990 3rd UN “the king” placement.
C. Daniel 11:40-41 is globalist world military and infiltrative operations taking place globally since the Gulf War continuing into the “Global War on Terror” in preparation for a final world war military coup of the globalist 8th King world power.
2. The current Bethel invasion and events to intensify will mark Daniel 11:41 as the current point of Daniel 11 fulfillment in 8th King as King North globalist meaning. Thus Daniel 11:41 (Luke 21:20 meaning) will culminate as the Daniel 8:13-14 Jehovah’s witnesses’ “holy place” and “army” 8th King “trampling” to start off the final cycle, not end it. (1Pet4:17);
A. Daniel 11:41 must merge into Daniel 11:42-43 events soon.
3. The financial and wealth globalization sequence of Daniel 11:42-43, upon King South “Egypt” national powers upon the leading nations of the Anglo-American national system is the point of the prophecy to begin fulfillment to culmination next.
4. That Daniel 11:42-43 culmination of global wealth control, and the military control preceding (Joel 3:9-12) it in meaning, must merge into the final 8th King world government events of Daniel 11:44-45 which also must merge into the actual final fulfillment of Daniel 12. (Rev16:12-16; Rev17:12-18);
Daniel 11:45 will parallel Daniel 12:11 fourth UN placement as 8th King world government. (The sovereign final statement period of 1Thess5:1-3, “freedom from care” of Daniel 8:25);
Temple Judgment Context
1. The temple judgment will activate in the activation of Daniel 11:42-43 next as the initial 8th King global financial globalization context in some way. Thus as the temple judgment becomes active and known, Revelation 8 final fulfillment will activate as the Revelation 8-11 final continuum of repeating prophecy as the JW temple judgment (Rev8), purification, recovery (Rev9), final ministerial commission (Rev10) and final “two witnesses” Kingdom invitation and warning (Rev 11) leading to Christ’s full Messianic Kingdom completing arrival of Matthew 24:29-31 parallel Revelation 11:11-19. (Revelation 16:12-19);
2. Thus the JW temple judgment (Dan8:13-14; Rev8:3-5), the ministerial recovery and updates, the global tribulation and it’s end (Matt24:29) into 8th King world government (Dan8:25; 11:45; 12:11) will all be milestones along Daniel 11:45 into Daniel 12 to be seen by and explained to many enroute to Christ’s actual full arrival, over the timed periods and meanings of Daniel 12 and it’s Revelation 11:2-3 parallel final ministerial context.
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