Fire Purification: Proving the JW Temple Judgment as Daniel 8:13-14 Connection to Revelation 8

Fire Purification: Proving the Temple Judgment and Finale Cycle of Prophecy as Daniel 8:13-14 Connection to Revelation 8

This article connects modern temple judgment prophecy by the use of the “fire” purification symbol in the Bible concerning temple judgment features. (Zech3:2, Mal3:2, Isa6:6-8; Rev8:5 for Dan8:14 “right condition”); (See the “Fire” Scriptural Connections)

This article develops rationale identifying Daniel 8:13-14 as the temple judgment in the 1Peter 4:17 priority of judgment on Jehovah’s witnesses first. By the “fire” and “purification” connection across a few supporting prophecies, Daniel 8:13-14 temple judgment eventual “right condition” of temple purification (Zech3:1-5; Mal3:1-5) is connected to Revelation 8:1-6 temple judgment parallel as Revelation 8-11 must activate in a first signal (Rev8) and fulfill as a final fulfillment replication over the ensuing timed period of Daniel 8:14.

This is how to determine Daniel 8:13-14 is the Revelation 8:1-6 parallel temple judgment development upon Jehovah’s witnesses in final fulfillment soon. Daniel 8:13-14 is a unique prophecy of the temple judgment event that activates Revelation8-11 as a repeating prophecy but entering final fulfillment.

The truth is Jehovah’s witnesses Kingdom ministerial state is now compromised (Zech3:1-3; 2Thess2:1-4) and “befouled” from a development of several decades of ministerial subversion from Bethel’s leadership which is also foretold as the developments signalling and leading to the final temple judgment period. (Dan8:11-14; 11:30-35);

The temple judgment will purify the anointed Christian state, clarify the final actual state of prophecy leading to Christ’s arrival, and recover that ministry to commission a final deployment of a cleansed Kingdom ministry announcement preceding Christ’s actual arrival. Coming world events will provide the temple judgment context (Dan11:42-45) and in time also climax into 8th King world government through a final global tribulation to resolve (Matt24:29) into that final Har-Magedon “global situation”.

The current Jehovah’s witnesses apostate ministerial state is not explaining the final prophetic cycle properly, and is in an unaccounted, publicly known United Nations relationship (UN NGO) that exacerbates this apostate condition but also identifies the central temple transgression (Dan11:30-31; 8:13) of the coming judgment on Jehovah’s witnesses first (1Pet4:17), not “Babylon the Great” as promoted by Bethel to obscure the temple judgment and it’s meaning.

This signal judgment opens the way for the exposure of Bethel’s true condition, with enough prophetic time to make the final proclamation. That final cycle repeats the central Kingdom and 8th King elements of the original 1914-1919 Jehovah’s witnesses ministry, but to completion as Daniel 11:42-45 must converge into Daniel 12’s repeating fulfillment in final form.

Admission Opens Eyes Now

There are a few developments we would have to accept that have gradually manifested in the Jehovah’ witnesses ministry in order to see this prophecy fulfilling before it actually activates in earnest as a judgment among Jehovah’s witnesses and “the organization”. (Dan8:13-14). First off God is not one to be mocked (Gal6:7), and the extreme but somewhat hidden hypocrisy sowed on the part of Bethel’s top administrations (2Pet2:1-3), influencing many Jehovah’s witnesses (Rev8:10-11), will reap an eventual disaster in the organization worldwide.

Thus we know why as per Bible principle all judgments START with God’s own house:

(1 Peter 4:17) For it is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of God. Now if it starts first with us, what will the end be of those who are not obedient to the good news of God?

That judgment starts in Daniel 8:13-14 as unique in Jehovah’s witnesses history, the final temple judgment cycle beginning.

That 8th King provided disaster internal to Bethel (Dan11:30-32; 8:11-13) has produced the desolation requirement of the temple judgment accounting for the “transgression causing desolation” (Dan8:13; UN NGO signal) and will signal a final transitional phase of world development (Dan11:42-43) towards final 8th King world government (Dan11:44-45) and that the final segway to Christ’s arrival has activated in a great prophetic final cycle of a number of years – not the Bethel implied instant end of the world.

One Thing Leads to Another in Prophecy

Purification principles in the temple judgment commencement prophecy can be cross linked to other key prophecies that must also have a final fulfillment in time as will be explained below. This prophetic continuum framework that Daniel 8:13-14 temple judgment starts and connects to in Revelation 8-11 (and Rev15-16) final fulfillment cycle meaning provides features of the final cycle that registers other final fulfillment prophecy reliably into the final sequence over some years.

Considering the validity of this former prophecy pattern already fulfilled aids the awareness of it’s replication as the principles in the prophecy repeat with the prophecy in a marked judgment upon a well known temple entity: Jehovah’s witnesses. That event and the eventual prophecy explained properly will provide world attention as a great signal in time as to the requirements and causes of the temple judgment desolation and the required temporary cessation of the Jehovah’s witnesses (JW) ministry. (Zech13:7; 2Thess2:1-12).

Even the signal apostasy is now present in Jehovah’s witnesses as a repeating principle in action that must lead to more prophetic events in time.

Prerequisites to Seeing the Prophecy Now

Accept the Cause and Need of the Judgment: Foretold Final Apostasy

An admission of guilt and need for repentance by Jehovah’s witnesses is required to understand the cause of the judgment. (2Thess2:1-12; Zech3:1-3; Isa1-5; Dan9:1-19). Admission is the first step to repentance that opens the eyes. The confession of 40 years of well documented (on the web for example), but organizationally concealed, spiritually criminal activity, policies and alliances forms the basis of the final fulfillment Revelation 8 judgment heralds.

The Governing Body dictatorial coup provides a marked basis of the downward spiral of Jehovah’s witnesses ministry to a global abomination hidden in the system in clever ways. (2Pet2:1-3; Dan11:32a)

This corruptive influence just so happens to arrive most noticeably under the non-Biblical “Governing Body” self-exalted tenure since 1976.

Thus the disclosure will require an admission among Jehovah’s witnesses under judgment leading hopefully to repentance and a public record (part of the final ministry; Rev8) upon and by those experiencing this judgment hoping to take part in the final cleansed ministry it will produce to proceed over the final years of prophecy. (Dan12); When apostasy is recognized at it’s Bethel core location (Dan11:32a), then the judgment is more easily seen as prophetic and necessary in God’s justice and His prophecy requirement and guarantee. (Dan9:1-19; Isa12; Hos6:1-3);

The awareness of the purposes of the divine required accounting (Dan8:13-14) and it’s world signal (1Pet4:17) to develop from this temple judgment event on Jehovah’s witnesses will be produced from the common method of the temple purification: desolation. The notoriety of the desolation as a UN NGO consequence must come as the desolation “fire” context of that temple purification as indicated in Daniel 8:13-14. It’s implications for further prophetic activations will become known more clearly from the main initial event of the temple judgment, in the meaning of the fist four Revelation 8 trumpets.

It will take the Daniel 8:14 timed period for Jehovah’s witnesses to be awakened. (Matt25:5);

The “Fire” Purification Symbol Connection of Temple Judgment and Revelation 8

A connection of the temple judgment to Revelation 8 final fulfillment, by way of that purification “fire” symbol of  Revelation 8:1-6 “fire of the altar” linked to Daniel 8:13-14 purification “right condition” will be shown below by more Bible “fire” principles as that temple judgment coming on JWs activates a continuum of more prophecy fulfilling in repeating.

That coming signal temple judgment will indicate the final phase of prophetic fulfillment has begun. The connected additional prophecies give an approximate time line of several years to Christ’s actual manifestation by way of the unique Daniel 8:14 timing connecting to Daniel 12 timing repeating.

The temple judgment is an indication of the final temple presence of Christ to perform this needed clarification preceding that arrival and Messianic Kingdom completion. (2Thess2:1-4);

Awareness of Divine Prophecy Guarantee

If we have accepted the lawless signal in the JW ministry (2Thess2:3-4; Dan11:32a), and it’s leaders and producers at Bethel as the final signal apostasy prerequisite of judgment (2Thess2:1-3; 1Pet4:17), then we know it must already be in divine prophecy.

A development of this magnitude and importance must be prophetic, and an admission allows one to actually search the prophecies for the needed clues and information. We know as well, if a prophecy contains the Bethel apostasy information, more details can be found in those prophecies and there is good chance they are also being subversively affected, in interpretive diversion and error for example, by the marked apostates at Bethel. The Bethel apostates and impostors know what they are hiding and why, thus curtailing this kind of investigation is also present in the Bethel general attitudes enforced on JWs by threat of expulsion.

We already know Bethel forms “taboos” on actual study and discussion and all these repressive “commands of men” are adding up to a cover-up more clearly as areas of possible exposure are quarantined from Jehovah’s witnesses.

We also understand the Bible has a dynamic ongoing truth (Eph5:17) and continuing prophecy that foretells the entire trek of mankind out of Eden, through the Biblical national powers to our day (Dan2,7,8,11) and into eventual final globalization (Rev16:12-16; Rev17:11-18) and final 8th King world government development in the “time of the end” of the “last days” themselves. In such critical transitions we find a pattern in former judgment times of also cleverly concealed, justified and denied apostate developments preceding all these divine judgments.

We shall see the Bethel apostasy is 8th King connected with both “those leaving the holy covenant” and impostors at work in a collusion intended to mislead the JW Kingdom ministry at a critical point in it’s development. (Dan11:30b-31a);

Denial and blindness in Jehovah’s witnesses is a purposely conditioned attitude from Bethel over years of consistent application. Denial and protection against exposure of error are common precursors to judgment and the attitude also aids the concealment of the real conditions. Jehovah’s witnesses apply prophecy to former patterns but not the intimate locale they need to be applied to in all aspects positive and negative.

Thus prophecy describing transgressions and transgressors (Dan8:11-13, 23) “in the temple” will also be in a context of cover-up, plausible denial and smooth rationalizations that some but not all will recognize in a developing global reproach. (Dan8:12; Dan11:32a; 2Pet2:1-3). This conditioned attitude typifies modern Bethel in the Governing Body tenure of dictatorial and “infallible” “guidance”. (Zech3:3; 2Thess2:3-4);

In fact the very prophecies they divert contain the description of the apostasy in full detail. This will be shown and explained below.

Incomplete Ministry

We recognize many parts of Jehovah’s witnesses prophetic and spiritual development are incomplete for a number of reasons of which an organized apostasy causes the worst diversions and the greatest signals of this incompletion, in fact now a retrograde spiritual activity among Jehovah’s witnesses.

We also see the 8th King as an actual world government is not complete, nor is the United Nations that final 8th King totality, but just an “image” of this required world government completion. (Rev13:11-15); By prophecy and logic a final cycle is required for the 8th King to complete world government.

The Messianic Kingdom full 144000 in final spirit form are also incomplete in final Messianic Kingdom placement and must be in full number (Rev14:1) to allow a full coronation of Jesus Christ by God as Messianic King of kings and final High Priest “crown stone” of a complete Temple. (Zech4:6-9; Zech6:9-15). That final King-Priest coronation requires the Messianic Kingdom completion. Jehovah’s witnesses are not connecting that a Messianic Kingdom “birth” requires a maturation and completion phase. That phase will unfold over a prophetic replication upon the same Messianic Kingdom “birth” pattern of 1914-1919. (Dan12 repeats).

Thus in effect the temple judgment is starting a completion of many things prior to their actual full completions in the world scene.

(Revelation 10:6-7) “There will be no delay any longer; 7 but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to blow his trumpet, the sacred secret of God according to the good news which he declared to his own slaves the prophets is indeed brought to a finish.”

One of the greatest incompletion effects is that Christ’s next priority is not destruction of the 8th King, but a final warning ministry leading to a final “gathering” and “separation” securement of all sheep on planet earth, of which the 144000 remnant will be gathered to Messianic Kingdom completion first; (Rev7:1-17). Thus a great final salvation drive is the actual Kingdom priority prior to final 8th King deposition. (Dan7:25-26; Dan12:7, 11; Rev11:1-10);

Therefore a required prophetic truth completion will precede the actual events because Jehovah’s witnesses, though initially valid as a Kingdom announcing ministry (1914-1969), are now teaching a misinformation illusion from Bethel that obscures the truth of a final warning call and it’s final prophetic cycle to many peoples. In fact a final Kingdom invitation and warning must repeat again in final form.

(Revelation 10:11) And they say to me: “You must prophesy again with regard to peoples and nations and tongues and many kings.”

Repeating Principle

To really see the ramifications of the current JW apostasy (and it’s modern Bethel clerical “man of lawlessness”) we accept that divine prophecy has been fulfilling as recorded and provides principles for final fulfillment. In fact Jehovah’s witnesses have outlined probably over 90% of Bible prophecy that has already fulfilled as world history now in Daniel, Revelation, and other prophecies.

We recognize repeating prophecy repeats principles and have been present since Israel’s time before and to Christ and the 1914-1919 judgment period. All those judgment patterns of 740 BCE (Isaiah, Hosea, Micah), 607 BCE (Jeremiah, Ezekiel) and 70 CE (Daniel, Zechariah, Malachi) Israel and Jerusalem judgments prefigured the Christendom judgment of 1914-1919 that displayed principles and certain specifics of all those prophecies.

And the Christendom judgment in general global meaning foreshadows a final cycle judgment on Jehovah’s witnesses first and will now get specific to the Jehovah’s witnesses’ Christian house soon; (1Pet4:17 as Rev8 repeating). Replace the word “Christendom” with “Bethel” in the former temple judgment announcements on Christendom, for this final temple judgment series of events and announcements, and we see where the judgment is now logically falling.

It simply repeats in the more intimate “house of God” clarified from the first judgment of 1914-1919 and afterwards in it’s global proclamation of that judgment on Christendom’s first apostasy.

(1 Peter 4:17) For it is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of God. Now if it starts first with us, what will the end be of those who are not obedient to the good news of God?

A spiritual signal judgment foreshadows final world judgment to come in this final cycle “the judgment” enroute to Armageddon, made recognizable live and real-time by a spiritual judgment on Jehovah’s witnesses first where it starts. (1Pet4:17). This provides a final signal, a needed clarification and a full explanation well prior to Armageddon to deploy again, as in 1914-1918, into an 8th King inspired world tribulation to birth world government. (Dan8:25; 11:45; 12:11);

Required by the Prophecy

Thus critical signals in the prophecy itself require a final temple judgment and purification. (Dan8:11-14; Dan11:30-45; Rev8-11) A purification and admission is also required to make a clarification of truth and prophecy to validly announce the final prophetic cycle properly as the truly final world warning beginning. Prophetic developments in the JW ministry must be fully disclosed publicly in time.

Thus many developments in Jehovah’s witnesses now rendering the ministry as a “1/3” part (Rev8) of an “operation of error” must be rectified by divine judgment, not a human “reformation”, to account for and clear out the hypocritical lawlessness and man worshipping idolatries now present right from Bethel. How this really unfolds in detail we do not yet know. That it will unfold we do know. (2Thess2:1-4);

The current denial in Jehovah’s witnesses is also part of the features of previous judgments. It is a common development of those (modern JWs) with one impression of approval based on past performances of others (early JWs) to deny the disapproved current practices by the “smooth words” trusted leaders (Dan11:32a), in fact now worshiped leaders and an idolatry of “organization” among Jehovah’s witnesses.

Everyone (in positions) and everything as part of the organizational whole, dress codes and traditions, amongst Jehovah’s witnesses, now competes with God and the intermediatorial position of Jesus Christ in the JW collective mind and heart. Kindness is now deserved at Bethel.

The “undeserved kindness” of God has now been fully eclipsed by these gradually developed manmade impositions of “organization” in Jehovah’s witnesses vanities, including a Christendom-like “inquisition”, “clergy laity” hierarchy and the worship of traditions and it’s “relics”.

Prophecy is Already Repeating

Then we see clearly it is already repeating in the same prophecy by principle and in fact great details, and by admission we can accept the self-incrimination already present in the prophecy (Dan11:30-35; 8:11-13) whose foretold lawlessness and signal transgression  leads to judgment, as all times past and it is prophetic, as all times past. That lack of self admission of guilt (Dan9:1-19) also blinds one from this lawless reality fully present now among Jehovah’s witnesses as Bethel policy, not some oversight or random degradation, it is now purposeful and already in prophecy as such. (Dan8:11-13; Dan11:30-35; 2Cor11:13-15).

We now see a UN NGO is not a light affair in general and in prophecy it is a marker of serious transgression in the public and Bethel record for all to see. (Dan8:13). We will see in the prophetic context there is more 8th King involvement and collusion than just the UN NGO “tip of the iceberg” at Bethel. (Matt24:15)

We should make a mental note that this “transgression” is the cause of the temple “desolation” divine requirement in the prophecy below, by it’s very relationship to the 8th King powers who are ultimately behind such intrigues as outlined in the prophecy as well:

The Judgment and the Desolation Requirement – First 8th King Related Trampling Coming Up

(Daniel 8: 13) And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking: “How long will the vision be of the (profaned and subverted) constant [feature] (of JW ministerial offerings) and of the transgression causing desolation (UN NGO alliance and co-promotions fulfilling Daniel 11:31b), to make both [the] holy place (temple “established place”; Dan8:11) and [the] (JW worldwide) army things to trample on?” (in a first 8th King “trampling” “attack” aided temple desolation “fire” of Zechariah 3:2 and Revelation 8:3-5 starting the final prophetic cycle in a global tribulation forming);

Timed Temple Judgment Period and Purification Purpose

(Daniel 8: 14) So he said to me: “Until two thousand three hundred evenings [and] mornings; and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition.” (Temple purification completed in this time period parallel Zechariah 3:4-5, Revelation 8:1-5);

Affirmation the “Evening” and “Morning” Have Great Meaning

(Daniel 8:26) “And the thing seen concerning the evening and the morning, which has been said (by the angel), it is true. And you, for your part, keep secret the vision, because it is yet for many days.”

Thus the minor organizational adjustments of the 1930s and 1940s that Bethel applies to that Daniel 8:13-14 prophecy cannot match the magnitude of what that prophecy really is indicating; it is a temple judgment purification in the whole Daniel 8:11-14 context that led to that judgment decree with 8th King “small horn” (and King of Fierce Countenance/8th King) globalist UN NGO connections described in the prophecy. (Dan11:30-35 modern parallel)

No way is a human government legally defined instrument, a corporate “organization” as the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, any such “holy place”, it is a “Caesar” defined corporate entity, nothing more, nothing less. The Christian anointed temple is the “holy place” in transgression and under judgment in this prophecy.

At best the JW “worldwide organization” is a means to a ministerial end, at worst one more permanently rejected idolatrous abomination making such claims illegally. This is but another example of a mundane “organization” claiming to be a divine entity only present in the “body of the Christ” by God’s definition, not man or human governments. The “Governing Body” as just a self-exalted “board of directors” is another example of a corporate defined “body” also claiming to be of divine and Biblical origin in this actually blasphemous development. In reality “the organization” and the “governing body” are just part of the complex of “transgression causing desolation”, for these idolatries allowed the UN NGO development as the climax of all transgression signals. (Matt24:15);

Ironically the very source of the supposed “organizational refinements” in the Bethel 1930s interpretation of this Daniel 8:13-14 prophecy are but more examples of the actual further authority given to the lawless cell of profanations instead. Instead these “organizational adjustments” furthered the lawless internal authority of Bethel’s hierarchical development.

Even Bethel waffles around on this prophecy from the 1958 and 1999 versions of the commentary on Daniel’s prophecy. Thus it is easy to see that critical Daniel 8:11-14 prophecy has problems in the Bethel interpretation that actually helps conceal the UN NGO reality as that “transgression causing desolation” from the collective JW awareness. And the actual 1990 signal period of that UN NGO also aligns Daniel 8:11-14 with Daniel 11:30-35 parallel developments.

Thus the whole prophecy of Daniel 8:9-25 and Daniel 11:30-45 is part of the Bethel interpretive subversion maintained and reinforced in the 1999 “Pay Attention to Daniel’s Prophecy” book that is actually describing the UN NGO related apostate milestone at Bethel with 8th King connection.

Of course the “holier than thou” “infallible” Pope-like collective Governing Body cell of this actually signal apostate development is also a smokescreen concealing the lawless core of operations at Bethel. That the Governing Body dictatorial coup led in 15 years to that UN NGO, is also now beyond coincidence.

That illegal “governing body” entity and the diverted organization it corrupted gradually to global idolatrous proportions along with the UN NGO, “gradually given over” (Dan8:12) is what is slated by prophecy for exposure and removal; (2Thess2:8) as a critical final apostasy.

Unique Timed Prophecy

The temple judgment and phasing of desolation (evening) and recovery (morning) and it’s 1150day or 2300 day cryptic timing is to keep Jehovah’s witnesses paying attention for the affirmation the timing will provide that this prophecy is fulfilling and has fulfilled to completion when that time comes.

This Daniel 8:13-14 prophecy will have a commencement signal to start the timing because this timing is important for affirmation of the prophecy. Unlike the disconnected meaning of the current Bethel fictional application of Daniel 8:13-14, this timing is connective, and leads to more prophecy to fulfill later as will be shown below in Revelation 8-11’s connection to the temple judgment of Daniel 8:13-14. (Rev8);

The initial judgment event (Rev8-9) must therefore become a signal of a broader global series of judgments (Rev15-16; Hag2:7) and final judgment which this temple judgment is indicating over some final years (Dan12) with great evidence will continue to the climax.

Thus Daniel 8:13-14 timing must connect to Daniel 12 final fulfillment over the last section of 8th King world development to world government over Daniel 11:42-45. This is why the temple judgment is an important event to verify as and after it fulfills.

Now when we re-examine all those Bethel WW2 era interpretations and the USSR fictional accounts going along with them that conceal this critical prophetic period of parallel, alas some new patterns arise that fit 1976-1990 Bethel much more precisely than the former attempts at interpreting Daniel 11:30-45 and Daniel 8:11-25.

Now we know what is really going on at Bethel. That 1990 era UN NGO 8th King “side covenant” is a very serious development and it needed internal Bethel compromise (Dan11:30-31) and time to manifest (Dan8:11-13), and it will trigger a divine judgment as per Daniel 8:13-14 and that will be a world seen signal.

Bethel UN NGO 8th King Endorsement Cause

(Daniel 11:30b) . . .(1) “And he (8thKing/King North globalist) will actually go back (in the three world war cycles including the Cold War marker. (Dan11:29)) and hurl denunciations against the holy covenant (not Christendom; this can only be in Christian anointed among Jehovah’s witnesses at this post 1919 time) and act effectively (continual success as indicated in Bethel’s successful operation – see Daniel 11:36b; Dan8:12b); (2) and he will have to go back and will give (unique/specialized) consideration to those (JW Christian anointed defectors) leaving (defection in progress, not possible in Christendom) the holy covenant. (anytime developing after 1919 determination of holy covenant location, but did not succeed in covering up first two UN placements as prophecy); (3) And there will be (infiltrator subversion) arms that will stand up (internal to Bethel; parallel Dan11:41; Luke21:20), proceeding from him; (8th King/King North globalists) and (4) they (team effort with the Governing Body network) will actually profane the sanctuary (temple arrangement internally compromised with UN NGO pollutions; 2Thess2:3-4), the fortress (JW organization internally compromised), and remove the constant [feature]. (Truth profaned first and “removed” as acceptable to God, as covered here in this Governing Body misinformation campaign; This must become a literal event of JW ministerial cessation of the first 8th King “trampling” of Dan8:13);

The climax of that 8th King developed Bethel internal apostasy “consideration” and pre-positioning internal to Bethel results in the Bethel UN NGO of 1991 at the same time as the third UN placement of 1990:

The UN 3rd Placement of 1990-1991

(Daniel 11: 31b) “And THEY (8th King and Bethel collusion) will certainly put in place the disgusting thing (8th King and Bethel collusion) will certainly put in place the disgusting thing that is causing desolation. (Placed in world as United Nations “New World Order” objective, 1990; placed at Bethel as UN NGO in 1991; Matt24:15);

The main 8th King planner (1), the location “in the temple” (2), the infiltration (3) and the collusion (4) are all described in this prophecy, thus the self incrimination upon “those leaving the holy covenant” and among Jehovah’s witnesses as the anointed “in the temple” context is also established and must be admitted and  faced (Rev9) to rectify. (Dan9:1-19; Isa12)

Daniel 8:11-14 Parallel

And Daniel 8:11-12 as prelude to Daniel 8:13-14 parallels the same apostate subversion as the Daniel 11:30-35 developments in collusion, subversion, time and location:

(Daniel 8:11-12) . . .And all the way to the Prince of the army it put on great airs, and from him the constant [feature] was taken away, and the established place (Bethel JW worldwide organization) of his sanctuary was thrown down. (first spiritually then literally as Daniel 8:13) 12 And an (JW worldwide) army itself was gradually given over (to 8th King infiltrative control), together with the constant [feature] (imbibed with misinformation), because of transgression; (UN NGO and other sins permits allowance of the compromise by removed divine blessing and discernment while fulfillment of prophecy is effected for greater future purpose); and it kept throwing truth to the earth (cover up, misinformation), and it acted and had success. (Dan11:30 “act effectively” completely successful unlike anything World War 2 produced in ultimate failure when compared to this 8th King engineered intelligence and subversion operation deployed through the Governing Body and installed Bethel agents);

Now we see all these weird developments at Bethel are hidden behind a smokescreen by a purposely retained interpretation from a premature period in the JW ministry that aids concealment of reality today as most JWs just buy these dated interpretations as final and valid.

The purpose of the judgment is for Christ to clarify a final valid truth from the Bethel approximate 40 years of Governing Body produced gradual subversion to total diversion and organizational abominations. (Rev8:10-12); God is also making a final sheep salvation priority announcement for anyone on earth who agrees to live under the eternal Messianic Kingdom rulership that will be giving final invitation and warning of it’s inevitable arrival as the 8th King also completes world government.

This is all described in this prophetic understanding to be explained fully as the final ministry in time from the current lawless context of the foretold signal Bethel apostasy. (Dan12:7; 12:11; Matt24:29-31; Matt25:31-46);

A final time period laid out in prophecy, not an instant “end of the world” as per apostate Bethel’s illusion, is what the prophecy actually indicates.

The Temple Purification Meaning in the Bible’s “Fire” Symbol Reference and Scriptural Connection

The Symbol of “Fire” as the Daniel 8:14 Purification “Right Condition” Link to Revelation 8 “Fire of the Altar” Purification Meaning

The Bible already uses the “fire” symbol as a destructive (Mal4) and or a purifying (Mal3) symbol with a number of examples related to the temple and “holy city” Jerusalem (Eze10) and other contexts of purification or destruction. (Isa6:6-8; Zech3:2); A symbolic “fire” context results in the temple judgment desolation and purification.

This Daniel 8:14 “right condition” is a great temple judgment purification and cleansing of far greater significance than the current JW interpretation of this scripture:

(Daniel 8:13-14) And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking: “How long will the vision be of the constant [feature] and of the transgression causing desolation, to make both [the] holy place and [the] army things to trample on?” 14 So he said to me: “Until two thousand three hundred evenings [and] mornings; and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition.

We see an 8th King connected “trampling” desolation (Zech13:7), a divine “fire”, produces the purposed effect on the temple of anointed Christians. The Bethel context is for a recognizable association to the anointed Christian ministry also profaned by apostate Bethel activities. (Zech3:3);

This purification parallel is present in this temple inspection (Zech3:1-3) parallel preceding the temple judgment:

(Zechariah 3:3-5) Now as for Joshua, he happened to be clothed in befouled garments (current JW state) and standing before the angel. (final judicial inspection) 4 Then he answered and said to those (angels) standing before him: “Remove the befouled garments from upon him.” And he went on to say to him: “See, I have caused your error to pass away from upon you, and there is a clothing of you with robes of state.” (a new state of purification and official priestly authorization is reached from the temple judgment) 5 At that I said: “Let them put a clean turban upon his head.” And they proceeded to put the clean turban upon his head and to clothe him with garments; and the angel of Jehovah was standing by.

This well known temple purification meaning of the results of God’s judgment by Christ (2Thess2:8), now in final fulfillment events soon, applies the “fire” purification symbol turned to temple cleansing reality – especially in the final phase temple judgment soon as Malachi 3:1-4 must have a final fulfillment application to the final temple judgment:

(Malachi 3:1-4) “Look! I am sending my messenger, and he must clear up a way before me. And suddenly there will come to His temple the [true] Lord (for intimate judgment first; 1Pet4:17), whom you people are seeking, and the messenger of the covenant in whom you are delighting. Look! He will certainly come,” (as per Daniel 8:13-14 in final fulfillment) Jehovah of armies has said. 2 “But who will be putting up with the day of his coming, and who will be the one standing when he appears? (for the temple judgment phase prior to final judgment; 1Pet4:17) For he will be like the fire of a refiner and like the lye of laundrymen. 3 And he must sit as a refiner and cleanser of silver and must cleanse the sons of Levi; and he must clarify them like gold and like silver, and they will certainly become to Jehovah people presenting a gift offering in righteousness. 4 And the gift offering of Judah and of Jerusalem will actually be gratifying to Jehovah, as in the days of long ago and as in the years of antiquity. (results in an approved “constant feature” from the purification events on the temple that will remove the “befouled” current JW “constant feature”. (Dan8:11; 11:31a));

The Zechariah 3:1-3 temple inspection and indictment of “befouled” status had implied a fire purification and deliverance by the hand of God:

(Zechariah 3:1-2) And he proceeded to show me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of Jehovah, and Satan standing at his right hand in order to resist him. 2 Then [the angel of] Jehovah said to Satan: “Jehovah rebuke you, O Satan, yes, Jehovah rebuke you, he who is choosing Jerusalem! Is this one not a log snatched out of the fire?

The commissioning of Isaiah by purification prior to his ministerial commission, as a prophetic type, also illustrates the fire symbology in the Bible as indicative of a purification:

(Isaiah 6:6-8) At that, one of the seraphs flew to me, and in his hand there was a glowing coal (fire parallel) that he had taken with tongs off the altar. (fire of the altar parallel of Revelation 8:3-5) 7 And he proceeded to touch my mouth and to say: “Look! This has touched your lips, and your error has departed and your sin itself is atoned for.” 8 And I began to hear the voice of Jehovah saying: “Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?” And I proceeded to say: “Here I am! Send me.” (the purification results in the commissioning of Isaiah as a principle of purification prior to final commission.)

The Jerusalem “holy city” judgment of 607 BCE was also seen as a purification event:

(Ezekiel 10:1-2) And I continued to see, and, look! upon the expanse that was over the head of the cherubs there was something like sapphire stone, like the appearance of the likeness of a throne, appearing above them. 2 And he proceeded to say to the man clothed with the linen, even to say: “Enter in between the wheelwork, in under the cherubs, and fill the hollows of both your hands with coals of fire from between the cherubs and toss [them] over the city.” So he entered in before my eyes.

The temple purification meaning of Zechariah 3:1-5 and the Isaiah 6:6-8 pre-commission purification principle results in this divine ultimatum symbolizing a commissioning of a final ministry (Rev10), a principle of recovery of “the gift offering of Judah and of Jerusalem [that] will actually be gratifying to Jehovah”:

(Zechariah 3:6-7) And the angel of Jehovah began to bear witness to Joshua, saying: 7 “This is what Jehovah of armies has said, ‘If it is in my ways that you will walk, and if it is my obligation that you will keep, then also it will be you that will judge my house and also keep my courtyards; and I shall certainly give you free access among these who are standing by.’

That divine ultimatum after the temple judgment purification and approval is also present in the principle of the determination, by divine judgment, of the “faithful and discreet slave” versus the “evil salve” rejected ones to result from the coming temple judgment. (Matt24:45-51; Matt25:1-13) That pre-commission cleansing also has parallel to being approved for the reception of the divinely delivered “little scroll” (Rev10) to deploy in the final “two witnesses” ministry (Rev11) as a divine mission type.

Thus the “fire of the altar” of Revelation 8:3-5 meaning is a temple judgment of great significance and the required purification that begins the whole Revelation 8-11 final fulfillment process first in this accounting and cleansing of Daniel 8:13-14 as this parallel activating soon:

(Revelation 8:1-6) And when he opened the seventh seal, a silence occurred in heaven for about a half hour. 2 And I saw the seven angels that stand before God, and seven trumpets were given them. 3 And another angel arrived and stood at the altar, having a golden incense vessel; and a large quantity of incense was given him to offer it with the prayers of all the holy ones upon the golden altar that was before the throne. 4 And the smoke of the incense ascended from the hand of the angel with the prayers of the holy ones before God. 5 But right away the angel took the incense vessel, and he filled it with some of the fire of the altar and hurled it to the earth. (JW “earth” symbol) And thunders occurred and voices and lightnings and an earthquake. (the temple judgment “earthquake”) 6 And the seven angels with the seven trumpets prepared to blow them.

The implication is Revelation 8 is not a stand alone prophecy but is continuum starting linked by the seven trumpets all the way to Revelation 11. The three woes also further link the meaning of the recovery of Revelation 9, to the reception of the final sovereign ultimatum of Revelation 10 “little scroll” and the deployment of the final world warning of Revelation 11 “two witnesses” and the effect it has on the world system at large.

Temple and Ministerial Recovery

The “smoke” of Revelation 9 recovery from this temple judgment desolation is from these “fires” of purification as anointed Christians emerge from the “abyss” of the Daniel 8:13-14 “trampling” “evening” “darkness”:

(Revelation 9:1-3) And the fifth angel blew his trumpet. And I saw a star that had fallen from heaven to the earth (the “angel of the covenant”; Christ), and the key of the pit of the abyss (of the temple desolation) was given him. 2 And he opened the pit of the abyss (to Daniel 8:14 “morning” of enlightenment), and smoke (of the judgment “fire”) ascended out of the pit (as a world signal seen) as the smoke of a great furnace, and the sun was darkened, also the air, by the smoke of the pit. (the meaning becomes ominous) 3 And out of the smoke locusts came forth upon the earth… (anointed Christian recovery).

Thus linking the temple judgment meaning of Daniel 8:13-14 desolations and other “fire” related prophecies of purification also links to the purpose of the judgment in recovery and enlightenment to the actual truth of the development being made known in the “trumpet” heralds.

Admitting error in us Jehovah’s witnesses first, now, aids understanding the whole prophecy before it activates in earnest. And since it is repeating, it is intuitive rather than “interpretive”, we merely update from the point of the Bethel and Governing Body points of subversion to update 8th King co-developments affecting the conditions of the judgment and it’s prophetic outline already present.

Those subversion points and timing is as per the real meaning of Daniel 8:11-13 and Daniel 11:30-35 parallels at the 3rd UN placement (Dan11:31b) timing of the UN NGO Bethel “transgression causing desolation”.

The “Governing Body” stranglehold on Bethel since 1976 aided the process of introducing serious transgression into the Christian anointed ministry.

Admission or lack of it, is maybe the greatest enlightening or blinding attitude amongst Jehovah’s witnesses becoming familiar with the many example of Bethel’s hypocrisy. A UN NGO should be a huge red flag to discerning Jehovah’s witnesses and others, that Bethel has aborted the former approved Kingdom ministry and that development in itself, signals coming judgment. (Matt24:15).

(Matthew 24:15-16) “Therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation (UN NGO Dan8:13), as spoken of through Daniel the prophet (Dan11:31b parallel Dan8:12-13), standing in a holy place (in the anointed Christian “temple”), (let the reader use discernment,) 16 then let those in Judea begin fleeing (the JW org) to the mountains.

The “discernment” is in the part of the Daniel prophecy actually fulfilled at Bethel and the 8th King system at this time of signal as Daniel 11:31b parallel of Daniel 8:13 “transgression causing desolation”. Daniel foretold the “disgusting thing” in a number of prophetic contexts, so the discernment is the 1990 appearance of that 8th King “disgusting thing” as the 3rd UN placement, and also “placed” at co-promoting UN NGO Bethel in 1991 as the signal to “discern” at this time.


Final Cycle of Prophecy is Indicated

Thus for a number of reasons a final cycle of prophecy is indicated to be signaled by the temple judgment events and ultimate meaning to eventually occur and come forth from the judgment events on Jehovah’s witnesses soon. And it drags on a while in a unique timed prophecy for aiding affirmation later. (Dan8:13; Hos:1-3; Isa37:30);

2520 Units as Seven Times in Years

The “seven times” “appointed times of the nations” as previewed in the original 1880-1914 work of Charles Russell and the Bible Students, affirmed in the first cycle of Daniel 7, 12 and Revelation 11, the sovereign Kingdom issue and divine time allowance expiring officially as per prophecy.

The “seven times” is a concept of a divine decree Jehovah’s witnesses should be completely familiar with in those intervening 2520 years from 607 BCE.

And Days: 2520 Days (1260 Day Witnessing Twice)

The significance of the 1914-1918 ministry starting as the 2520 years was ending, was that a 2520 days final “appointed times” final warning of divine allowance was what also went into effect and started at that time. As we know the world did not “end” at that time, but a final Kingdom warning deployed for another 100 years approximately.

Now we see the “time, times and half a time” (Dan7:25; 12:7 parallel of Revelation 11:2-3) as “3.5 times” or 1260 days time period is an incomplete number whose replication provides a complete “seven times” meaning in two 1260 day final witnessings in preview (1260 days; 1914-1918) and final phase (1260 days; future) of that ministerial warning that resulted from the temple purification clarification of what is actually active in the now apostate JW ministry. (Dan11:32a; 2Thess2:3);

When the final “two witnesses” completes well after the temple judgment (Rev11:7), 2520 days as “seven times” true final warning and allowance will also be completed.

The 1260 days “two witnesses” event occurs twice (Rev10:11), thus 1260 days past (1914-1918) and 1260 days future completes the divine “seven times” decree as 2520 days. These occur at their respective Kingdom phases as “birth” (1914-1918) and completion (future).

This is why Revelation 8-11 repeats as shown.

Back to UN NGO Source

Now these apostate conditions triggering the divine judgment need as a foretold final requirement to clarify the final cycle truth, connects back to the very UN related element (UN NGO) being harbored in the Bethel system at present since 1990 in public record albeit exposed in it’s covert nature after the fact in October 2001 in that UN NGO exposé.

This links the whole true development back to those Daniel 8:11-14 and Daniel 11:30-35 parallel prophecies now covered up by Bethel with now dated WW2 impossibilities of interpretation.

Now the Daniel 8:13 “transgression causing desolation” fits far better with the pattern of the Bethel UN NGO and it’s actually serious nature in making such an agreement of adjoining spiritual Israel to a UN co-promotions organizational device designed for that very purpose. The “library card” access is not what the United Nations Non-Governmental Organization is designed for, but for dissemination of “public information” about the United Nations presented co-promotionally in positive light to be disseminated to the unique demographic of the co-promoting “non governmental” but promotional organization.

In that way the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society took on a mission from Bethel to provide promotional services for the 8th King system. Cover-up of it’s King North identity in Daniel 11:30-45 is part of that objective. The 1991 UN NGO covenant and the cover up of the whole prophecy with dated and erred interpretations that conceal 8th King activity as King North in Daniel 11:30-45 is also part of the same development seen since 1990.

Truly the UN NGO is just the “tip of the iceberg” at Bethel.

Now the whole Bethel act and apostasy goes back to the point of critical diversion in the same Daniel 8 and Daniel 11 prophecies as 8th King activity beyond the national power interpretive diversion Bethel uses to conceal those globalist prophecies actual events leading to the 1990 3rd UN placement.

The 8th King Cover Up Reveals the Prophecy Daniel 11:30-45 is in Final Stage: Daniel 11:42-45

Thus going UN NGO was just a part of the overall operation at Bethel. Concealing the King North 3rd UN manifestation in 1990 as Daniel 11:30-31, by Bethel by now purposeful prophetic fictions centered in the USSR impossibilities made known at their dissolution and failure (Dan11:36), now goes along with the apostate development of 8th King collusion in that same prophetic context of Daniel 11:30-35 and Daniel 8:11-14.

Concealing the King North identity as only possible in 8th King activity clearly seen from 1990 3rd UN placement and Bethel’s UN NGO “transgression causing desolation” (Dan8:13-14) and it’s own “disgusting thing standing” (Matt24:15) where it should not be placed in the Jehovah’s witnesses ministry is all part of this lawlessness now operating as the “operation of error” right from “in the temple” fully “set in opposition” to the truth now at Bethel. (2Thess2:1-4);

Thus the 8th King is who is active as King North in Daniel 11:30-45.

We see now that 8th King “success” is a required continuum of continuity from that time. (Dan11:36). And we have great evidence beyond just the 3rd UN placement in also Bethel co-developing apostasy concealing these details (Dan8:12) that this is the actual fulfillment of that prophecy and also the target concealment by Bethel to use WW2 and USSR fictions to obscure this reality as part of their apostasy and transgression. (Dan8:12b);

Now Jehovah’s witnesses have no idea the United Nations 8th King has a 3rd and 4th placement (Dan11:31, 45), the fourth and final placement being at Armageddon as parallel Daniel 12:11 repeating as unique Daniel 11:45 and Daniel 8:25.

That Links Daniel 11:42-45 Merging into Daniel 12 Repeating

Now knowing Daniel 11:30-45 is to be fully re-examined from 1990 forward with 8th King details as the focus, we see the unique characteristics of Daniel 11:40-41 are also present in the world and at Bethel (Dan11:41), and thus Daniel 11:42-45 has not yet fulfilled as Bethel states the USSR fulfills Daniel 11:42-43, which is impossible.

(This overly advanced position makes Jehovah’s witnesses expect Daniel 11:44 to activate next, which is also impossible, but sets up JWs for a hoax potential)

Thus the one time fulfillment of that unique portion of Daniel 11, as Daniel 11:42-43 leading to 8th King world government climax live and real-time as Daniel 11:44-45, must then merge – live and real-time in the future – into Daniel 12:1 “during that time” of Daniel 11:42-45 mentioned previously in the prophecy, as it merges into Daniel 12’s final fulfillment. It also implies a final cycle rather than the current Bethel “slam dunk” to the “end of the world”.

Thus a prophetic replication of Daniel 12 is also logical from this awareness an 8th King King North identity provides in Daniel 11:30-45. The Bethel apostasy merely further affirms this reality of a final cycle requirement for more than just temple judgment and recovery objectives. The 8th King also requires a final phase for world government completion. Thus a final cycle of time is also being concealed by Jehovah’s witnesses misled by this Bethel concoction for 8th King concealing purposes.

It is no wonder an apostate Bethel now purposeful subversion will try to conceal the exact prophecy describing their transgression, and why admittance of error is required to see it.

Final Ministry Disclosure Describes What Bethel is Now Covering Up

And this is why a recovered and clarified Kingdom ministry must deploy into that final time period as foretold for final warning purposes with a clear explanation of prophecy. And this is why a temple judgment desolation accounting and resulting purification is required to allow this truth to come forth from the current Bethel operation of suppression and organized subversion with 8th King purposes.

Thus a full explanation of the things hidden by the Bethel system in relation to 8th King cover-up and their actual progress in prophecy being made known from that disclosure will form the very basis of the Revelation 8 final fulfillment first four trumpet announcements whose details contain the description of the temple judgment (Trumpet 1; Rev8:7).

What follows is the full description of the 8th King issue to be thrust upon JWs (Trumpet 2; Rev8:8-9), the “man of lawlessness” parallel to the fallen lamp of Bethel (Trumpet 3; Rev8:10-11) and it’s “1/3” symbolic subversion of the Bethel ministry for the last approximately forty years. (Trumpet Four Rev8:12);

Thus the “four square” revelation of the first four trumpets of the JW “earth” focused temple judgment and cleansing is a completion meaning, and relates back to the actual apostate activities at Bethel, it’s 8th King ties and it’s profaning influence of the truth of prophecy.

Revelation 8:1-6 as Daniel 8:13-14 parallel is an overview of the whole temple judgment.

Temple Judgment Forms a Signal to be Seen by Many

Many see the Bethel lawlessness and organizational diversion. What many do not see is the prophecy it fulfills. Once all that connects to ominous prophecy fulfilling even now, the whole story changes. And this awareness is why the Bethel apostates also aid a misinformation campaign designed to make people doubt the whole JW ministerial foundations back to 1914.

Revelation 8’s first four trumpets fully explain that story.

Daniel 8:13-14 provides a temple judgment timing and “evening” and “morning” phasing (and “constant feature” meaning) that registers with Revelation 8 temple judgment meaning and the Revelation 9 ministerial recovery after that judgment purification. That is how Daniel 8:13-14 is the first “earthquake” to shake the JW “earth” world that also begins a final prophetic cycle in Revelation 8-11 that starts the seven trumpet continuum to Christ’s arrival and the final events of Adamic human history.

A JW and world signal is what the temple judgment thus becomes and will provide enough time over Daniel 11:42-45 merging into Daniel 12 as that Revelation 11:2-3 ministry of Daniel 12:7 parallel leads to the 8th King world government completion development of Daniel 11:45 registering with Daniel 12:11 final fulfillment.

Thus two unique activations in the world tribulation context and the temple judgment leads to the replication of Daniel 12 and Revelation 8-11 upon the same pattern as the first Jehovah’s witnesses ministry of 1914-1918. That initial Kingdom ministry deployed into a World War 1 “tribulation” as a concurrent Kingdom proclamation that led to the League of Nations manifestation of Daniel 12:11 first fulfillment and the first Revelation preview fulfillments as the foregleam of the final fulfillment climax.

Therefore the initial Jehovah’s Christian witnesses pattern of Daniel 12 in 1914-1919 and it’s Daniel 12:7 and 12:11 significance will repeat and thus be reaffirmed for a final warning upon a proven initial pattern but soon in final form in earnest final fulfillment activation. Dealing with the hijacked and apostate current Bethel override is necessary to release the final meaning of prophecy and the 8th King fulfillments of Daniel 8:11-14 and Daniel 11:30-32 fully covered up by the modern Bethel subversion since 1990.

The events and developments that will befall Jehovah’s witnesses “worldwide organization” as Daniel 8:13-14, Revelation 8:1-13 and 1Peter 4:17 judgment priority are guaranteed by God to produce the foretold clarification and that forms a final cycle that the intervening years of that “tribulation of those days” must end (Matt24:29) not into the “end of the world”, but into 8th King world government just like the three previous world wars, including the Cold War (Dan11:29) also birthed an eventual UN related world government placement and global statement.

Thus the Bethel fantasy currently fed to JWs in this “operation of error” is of a premature “end of the world” scenario whose confusion and overly advanced position in Daniel 11 as Daniel 11:44 next aids also the final 8th King fourth placement as world government, as it aided the 8th King in a purposeful diversion of that prophetic sequence since the 1990 3rd UN placement.

That Bethel smokescreen will be removed by God and Christ as per a final prophetic fulfillment cycle starting with the temple judgment in the actual 8th King context of Daniel 11:42-43 activating next to eventually explain the actual Bethel apostate status as it is removed by an already expected desolation. Except it will be the temple judgment leading to the final cycle of prophecy, not the JW expected “end of the world”.

It will be Daniel 11:42-43 that activates next that activates, or leads to Daniel 8:13 required timed “trampling” for the UN NGO “transgression causing desolation” starting. What is starting next is not the Daniel 11:44 final 8th King attack phase actually some years into this final cycle that JWs are being misled to expect a fulfillment of next.
Revelation 8 (Daniel 8:13-14) and Revelation 16 Parallels


More Information

Connecting Bethel Lawlessness to Final Prophecy

Daniel 8:13-14 Details the Coming Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s Witnesses

Daniel 11:42-45 Converges Into Daniel 12 Final Fulfillment
Global Tribulation is Guaranteed, Everything Else is Unknown to Jehovah’s Witnesses

Daniel 12 Final Prophetic Cycle Images and Graphics

Final Prophetic Cycle – Signals of Commencement

All Four United Nations Presentations are Foretold in Bible Prophecy

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